Legislature(2001 - 2002)

04/19/2001 01:37 PM Senate L&C

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                      SB 176-DISTRIBUTORSHIPS                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
CHAIRMAN  RANDY   PHILLIPS  called  the  Senate  Labor   &  Commerce                                                          
Committee meeting  to order at 1:37 p.m. and announced  SB 176 to be                                                            
up for consideration.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOHN HAXBY,  Waukeshaw Alaska Corporation, said  his business is                                                            
about 30  years old. They  have been in  the machinery industry  all                                                            
that time  and have  a number  of relationships  with manufacturers                                                             
around the  country. They  support this bill,  he said, "Because  it                                                            
levels  the legal  playing  field between  major  manufacturers  and                                                            
small businesses in Alaska."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HAXBY explained:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Some  of the key salient  points that  are good for  small                                                                 
     businesses  are that it keeps  manufacturers from forcing                                                                  
     unwanted  or unordered inventory  on the small businesses                                                                  
     in Alaska.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     The second  good point is that  it allows for the orderly                                                                  
     disposition   of   inventory  in   the  event   that   the                                                                 
     distributor agreement was somehow yanked or canceled.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The  other thing it  allows for is in  the event there  is                                                                 
     the  death of  a distributor  or a  distributor principal                                                                  
     that there  is an orderly and  reasonable recovery of  the                                                                 
     inventory  that  might be  left over  as of  the date  the                                                                 
     agreement  is  yanked.  It becomes  especially  important                                                                  
     when,  in  the  case of  a  death,  the IRS  comes  in  to                                                                 
     evaluate  the value  of a  business and  they evaluate  it                                                                 
     based   upon  the  past  performance   of  that  business                                                                  
     assigning  a value in a corresponding  tax amount. In  the                                                                 
     event that the distributor  agreement is yanked, there may                                                                 
     not be  any value to the business  in the future, however                                                                  
     the tax obligation remains.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. DEBORAH LUPER, Eagle River former small business owner,                                                                     
supported SB 176. She said:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     There  are many  reasons  why I  personally  support  this                                                                 
     bill.  One is that I  spent approximately  two years as  a                                                                 
     representative  of a major small business organization,  a                                                                 
     national   organization,   and  talked   to  hundreds   of                                                                 
     businesses over the course of those two years.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Businesses in Alaska have  unique challenges as it is, but                                                                 
     when they  are pitted against the megaforces,  represented                                                                 
     by  manufacturers and  wholesalers in  the Lower 48,  they                                                                 
     have  fairly shallow  pockets  in comparison  to the  deep                                                                 
     pockets  that   these  manufacturers  have.  They  cannot                                                                  
     afford, just by the nature  of being a small business with                                                                 
     limited  staff  and  limited  finances,   to  fight  legal                                                                 
     battles when the playing field is already so uneven.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     There  are  three areas  of this  bill  that I  think  are                                                                 
     excellent.  One is preventing the manufacturer  from using                                                                 
     coercion  to  force  a  dealer  or  distributor  to  carry                                                                 
     product  or purchase  product that they  did not want  and                                                                 
     did not order.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Secondly,   it  sets  in  place  a  mechanism  where   the                                                                 
     inventory  will be purchased  back. In some cases that  is                                                                 
     in the hundreds of thousands  of dollars. It sets in place                                                                 
     a  mechanism  to  purchase  the  inventory   back  if  the                                                                 
     distributor  agreement is yanked and that can  be done for                                                                 
     any  number of reasons  including -  in Alaska, a product                                                                  
     has not been  offered before, the manufacturer  is up here                                                                 
     looking  for someone  to distribute  it.  He finally  gets                                                                 
     someone to  do so. That person, then, develops  the market                                                                 
     for it.  Once that market is  established, the wholesaler                                                                  
     manufacturer  has firmer  ground to stand  on and at  that                                                                 
     point,  they  may  decide  to go  for  someone  larger  or                                                                 
     someone   who  has  more  offices  around  the  state   or                                                                 
     something  like that. So, they  do have the right to  yank                                                                 
     the agreement, but in a  case such as that, when inventory                                                                 
     has been  purchased to facilitate  the agreement that  was                                                                 
     in  existence before  that date,  this law  would require                                                                  
     that  they  purchase   it  back  at  the  value  that  was                                                                 
     established  at  the time  the  inventory  was originally                                                                  
     purchased.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Finally, the portion that  is most meaningful to me is the                                                                 
     area where,  if the dealer dies, that the heirs  have some                                                                 
     recourse,  if the manufacturer  or wholesaler declines  to                                                                 
     allow  the heir to carry forward  the agreement, which  is                                                                 
     perfectly  within their  rights. But in  the case where  a                                                                 
     loved  one  dies  and  you're  dealing  already  with  the                                                                 
     emotional  loss, you also have to deal with a  significant                                                                 
     financial  loss in terms of that business, not  being able                                                                 
     to  do  anything  with  that  inventory.  You  might  have                                                                 
     hundreds of thousands of  dollars worth of capital tied up                                                                 
     in inventory.  It's just simple  human interest to set  in                                                                 
     place a mechanism  where the manufacturer, if  he declines                                                                 
     to  further  the  agreement   with  the  heirs,  buys  the                                                                 
     inventory back.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 200                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. RON YOUNG, President, Young's Gear, Inc., supported SB 176. He                                                              
related:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Over  the last  few years  and one particular  case  about                                                                 
     five  years ago, as  an example, we were  a large CD  axel                                                                 
     supplier  in the state. We were  a dealership for a  major                                                                 
     manufacturer  in the eastern seaboard. We built  up a very                                                                 
     large  business for  this company and  the product became                                                                  
     very  popular  and  what  happened,  the  company  in  the                                                                 
     eastern seaboard  basically went to large chain  warehouse                                                                 
     wholesale  outlets, like  Napa. The  product got devalued                                                                  
     and  part of  the behind the  scenes agreements,  which  I                                                                 
     will never see, was to squeeze  out or eliminate the small                                                                 
     local  representatives. Consequently,  they refused  to do                                                                 
     business  short-term;  they  would not  buy back  any  old                                                                 
     stock.  Virtually the old stock  that I had on the shelf,                                                                  
     which  was current at  the time, I should  say, it became                                                                  
     old stock, outdated nonsellable.  I talked to an attorney,                                                                 
     but there  is no way to legally force them on  the eastern                                                                 
     seaboard  to come  to court for  the amount  of the  money                                                                 
     involved, well over $100,000 cash in reality.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     That  is one  of the  reasons I  came here  to testify.  I                                                                 
     strongly  believe there is a  need for a law of this  sort                                                                 
     to be passed in the State of Alaska.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. JANEECE HIGGINS, Alaska Rubber Supply, said:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     In 1995, we had a distributorship  pulled. The corporation                                                                 
     was  a large corporation.  They were  given assurances  by                                                                 
     another  company  in Alaska  that they  would  be able  to                                                                 
     triple the  business. We were in the top 12 in  the nation                                                                 
     for   three    years   in   their   distributorship    for                                                                 
     organizations.  They pulled the distributorship  with a 30                                                                 
     day  notice, refused  to buy  back any  inventory. We  had                                                                 
     close  to $600,000 worth of inventory  on the shelf.  They                                                                 
     went through our customers  and notified them that we were                                                                 
     no longer  the authorized distributor  and they would  not                                                                 
     get factory support from  us and that they should be going                                                                 
     with  the new  distributor.  Therefore, we  couldn't  even                                                                 
     sell  the product  to our  customers. We  lost a $600,000                                                                  
     customer  right off the  bat. The fall  out from that  was                                                                 
     close to $2 million in sales.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     We  counter  sued  and  it  has  been  through  the  Ninth                                                                 
     Circuit. They  have appealed every decision that  has gone                                                                 
     our  way. We have  won in  every court  battle; they  have                                                                 
     appealed  every  one  of them.  It  has  cost us  over  $1                                                                 
     million  in legal fees. In hindsight,  we probably should                                                                  
     have settled, but the owner  decided that he didn't have a                                                                 
     lot to leave,  but he had his word and he was  going to go                                                                 
     to the grave  with it. So, here we are $1.2 million  later                                                                 
     in  legal  fees. We  still  have over  $100,000  worth  of                                                                 
     inventory  on the shelf that we have not been  able to get                                                                 
     rid  of. We have other  customers that  have slowly  taken                                                                 
     the  inventory  at a  reduced cost.  This loss  was  quite                                                                 
     significant  to  our company.  This bill  certainly  would                                                                 
     have been  welcome five years  ago and I urge you to  pass                                                                 
     it.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. KURT  WINKLER, Global  Services,  said he had  been in  business                                                            
here for about 20 years.  He supported SB 176. "I'd see the far away                                                            
Alaskans get  mistreated by the people  in the Lower 48,  especially                                                            
the  east coast.  We  are  so far  away  from  them and  we're  only                                                            
Alaskans. I'd like to see the mistreatment stop…"                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. DON DUNNAVANT,  Owner, Polar Supply  Co., said he got  his first                                                            
business license in 1975  and employs 50 - 60 Alaskans currently. He                                                            
said, "I have plenty of horror stories to tell."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
He testified  on behalf of  his employees  who work hard on  getting                                                            
trained  and  bringing  technology  to Alaska.  Their  families  are                                                            
dependent  on the  success of their  businesses.  He supported  this                                                            
bill, because it would make life a lot less risky for them.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. CHUCK  VANORMER said  his is  a department  manager for  a large                                                            
supply house in  Anchorage. He has been in customer  service product                                                            
support in Alaska for about 28 years. He said:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     As   an    employee   of   companies    that   have    had                                                                 
     distributorships cancelled,  I have been forced to lay off                                                                 
     other  employees due to loss  of business as well as  pick                                                                 
     up a lot of  dead stock inventory as has been  alluded to.                                                                 
     It suddenly becomes wasted  shelf space and is still taxed                                                                 
     under   the  inventory  tax   system,  but  is  basically                                                                  
     worthless.   It eventually   ends  up  in  a scrap   pile.                                                                 
     Additionally,   most of  the  products  I  handle  are  an                                                                 
     engineered   product  and  when  there  is  a  change   in                                                                 
     distributorship,  sometimes you can no longer  support the                                                                 
     products  you have sold  and you're forced  to go to  your                                                                 
     competition to purchase  items to repair those things that                                                                 
     you still  have under your warranty  control and do  start                                                                 
     ups and service to.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     There  is  a  major  concern  of  mine  on rolling   stock                                                                 
     equipment.  As more  and more  large firms  move into  the                                                                 
     state  of Alaska,  especially  oil  yards, they  bring  in                                                                 
     national agreements of distributorships  of equipment from                                                                 
     manufacturers  that give  them basically  predatory  price                                                                 
     due   to  volume   buying   against  the   local  Alaskan                                                                  
     distributorships.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. VANORMER  said  he knew  many businessmen  who had  given up  on                                                            
developing a line because  someone else came up from the Lower 48 as                                                            
a national concern  and now has that product available  at a cheaper                                                            
price. He  thought this bill  was of the  utmost importance  for the                                                            
Alaskan distributor  and it's  going to become  more important  with                                                            
the passage of the gas line.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LEMAN asked if  the inventory system required him to pay tax                                                            
on the  original purchase  price of  the item and  if that was  true                                                            
when the value became worthless.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  VANORMER   answered  that  unless   you  devalue  the   product                                                            
immediately upon cancellation,  you're stuck with it at the occurred                                                            
value. He is not  sure how it's depreciated, but you  carry it for a                                                            
couple of years  in hopes that you can move it out  as good stock or                                                            
find a wholesaler who's willing to take it off your hands.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNNAVANT  inserted that his bank  finances him on the  value of                                                            
his inventory  and  if that  value goes,  they are  less willing  to                                                            
finance  him.  So, it  does  not necessarily   work to  devalue  the                                                            
product.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. ED  SNIFFEN, Department  of Law, said  they didn't see  too many                                                            
problems with  this bill, but there might be one potential  conflict                                                            
with the  definition of distributor  if it  was intended to  include                                                            
auto manufacturers.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN PHILLIPS asked him to fax the recommendations to him.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LEMAN  asked if he had any other significant  comments about                                                            
this legislation.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. SNIFFEN replied that  he had looked through it and it appears to                                                            
be good legislation and  he didn't see anything that would cause DOL                                                            
any concern.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  TORGERSON asked  which would prevail:  two willing  parties                                                            
that enter into a contract  for a distributorship - that document or                                                            
this piece of legislation.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. SNIFFEN replied:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     That's a good  question and that's why we have  lawyers, I                                                                 
     suppose. Contract  rights between private individuals  are                                                                 
     hard to  disrupt, but the state  does have an interest  in                                                                 
     enacting   legislation   to   further   legitimate   state                                                                 
     interests.  I would think if  this law were in effect,  it                                                                 
     would  have some authority  over a  private contract  that                                                                 
     was  entered   after  the  law  was  on  the  books   that                                                                 
     conflicted with this legislation,  but I don't' know if we                                                                 
     could   enact  something   like  this   that  would   take                                                                 
     retroactive  effect.  That might  be a problem.  There  is                                                                 
     also an  issue that comes up  sometimes dealing with  some                                                                 
     constitutional  question about impairment of contracts.  I                                                                 
     could  talk for an hour about  what all that entails,  but                                                                 
     in this case I think that  most of the problems that arise                                                                 
     under an impairment of contract  analysis are not present.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TORGERSON  said he'd had several dealerships  and franchises                                                            
and he didn't  have any choice. He signed a deal as  it was laid out                                                            
and it had all  kinds of provisions on buying back  stock and how to                                                            
dissolve the contract.  He was concerned if the manufacturer outside                                                            
the  state was  not aware  of this  law and  someone  enters into  a                                                            
willing contract, what was the basis of this law.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. SNIFFEN  replied  that the  manufacturer is  almost presumed  to                                                            
know the  laws of the  state that  it's doing  business in.  "So, if                                                            
they're not aware of our law, it's almost shame on them."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
If two people  enter into a contract and the terms  are inconsistent                                                            
with this legislation,  he thought it was a gamble on behalf of both                                                            
parties. He thought in most cases, the statute would prevail.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TORGERSON  asked if he thought this would  be detrimental to                                                            
getting distributorships up here.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. SNIFFEN replied that he couldn't' answer that.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 1100                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LUPER  commented  on  page  5,  number  3,  under  exceptions,                                                             
specifically  excludes motor  vehicle distributors  and dealerships                                                             
and that should take care of the DOL's concerns.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Regarding Senator  Torgerson's concerns about whether  manufacturers                                                            
would be  willing to enter  into agreements  with Alaskan  business,                                                            
she said, "Alaska is one  of the few states that does not have a law                                                            
that is  similar to  this. Businesses  located in  other states  are                                                            
doing fine  under laws that are actually  more stringent  than this.                                                            
In fact, some states have  made some of these provisions rather than                                                            
being civil, they have actually gone to criminal ramifications."                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LEMAN  asked her if she wanted to respond  to what prevails,                                                            
a contract or the statute.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. LUPER said she wasn't qualified to comment on it.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN PHILLIPS  noted that this  bill was going to the  Judiciary                                                            
Committee where these questions would be addressed.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.   YOUNG  commented   that   before   a   person  goes   into   a                                                            
distributorship   with  a large  corporation,   they  have  to  sign                                                            
hundreds  of contracts  saying that  they are  liable for  attorneys                                                            
fees, collection  fees, on and on  and on. He didn't see  that there                                                            
would be  a difference where  the large corporation  is held  liable                                                            
for a change.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN PHILLIPS  said he would hold  the bill while he  checks out                                                            
some questions with the Department of Law.                                                                                      

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